Why are you so quick to dismiss a post as so much tabloid fodder? Do you think it might be a possibility that UPS might be making an attempt to correct some grey area violations of labor laws? That, just maybe, Estes might be guilty of some of this same behavior? If you are line drivers, than you should be elated about this news. No one feels good about sitting around for free, while the dock loads their trailers. PERIOD. As our favorite poster would have us believe. No one feels good about sitting at a meet and turn for hours of unpaid time. PERIOD. At the shop, on layovers, tied up at the scales, on breakdowns etc. etc. etc.!!! ALL FOR NO COMPENSATION?????? All of this bickering over nothing is useless. It is non productive. But this particular issue is very important to you all. To the industry as a whole. The east and the south are not big fans of the west coast. Ca. in particular. But the fact of the matter is trends, precedence etc. are conceived here and spread like wildfire. I and some others have been accused of trying to bring down Estes. All we are trying to do is inform our brother trucker as to the issues that involve them. And if yrc,upsf,abf, fed ex etc. see to it, that ALL of their employees are compensated for ALL of their time on duty, then by god estes and other companies like them should pay, or be forced to pay these monies. Elvis out and continuing his quest.....