I appreciate you candor, I understand they are operated as a business but they do not have the goals of a business. When I pay my lawyers retainer it becomes his money to do with as he pleases. It ceases to be my money. When my dues go to a union its still mime and my "brothers" money, I fully aware that I can not get that money back nor am I suggesting I should be able to. I am saying that unlike my lawyer who is free to do as he see fit with "his" money and I have nor should have no say in what he does with it. The unions money IS "our" money and they should be held accountable to those who trusted it to them. At no point does the money in the unions account become "theirs" there is no "their" just "us". If a union official takes money that's not his from them union account and uses it for his own gain that's illegal, that money should be used to further the interests of the members not of itself. because it has no identity except that of its membership.