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As someone posted here before if YRCW was going to go out why do they pay down their debt?.......it is smart to take 100 million to pay off 230 million in debt don't you think?
Yellow | This is what a NO vote really means
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Yes sounds smart. The key word was DISTRUST.
Reverse psychology works with children. It hasn't worked for the 3 or 4 other posters that used it, it don't work for you either. Give it a rest.
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It's funny how the guys trying to convince everyone to vote yes on this have such short memories! Just under 1 year ago, when this contract was up for ratifacation, we were screaming about the pathetic raise that was included in the language. Now all of a sudden you are so willing to give that back plus 15%? Come on guys...is your mortage payment going to come down, or your electric bill? We are the one's doing the work! We should be the last one's they come to! Sell some assets first before you come to me! Do we really need the China company? Did they not even consider that borrowing so much so fast might come back to haunt them? I would never put a million dollars on my credit card with no plan to pay it off if times got hard! These are the smart people making decisions about our company! It is going to be hard to do, but I'm voting NO! I wonder whoever is counting the votes are they going to be losing money too? This vote will pass no matter what the real count is!
It's funny how the guys trying to convince everyone to vote yes on this have such short memories! Just under 1 year ago, when this contract was up for ratifacation, we were screaming about the pathetic raise that was included in the language. Now all of a sudden you are so willing to give that back plus 15%? Come on guys...is your mortage payment going to come down, or your electric bill? We are the one's doing the work! We should be the last one's they come to! Sell some assets first before you come to me! Do we really need the China company? Did they not even consider that borrowing so much so fast might come back to haunt them? I would never put a million dollars on my credit card with no plan to pay it off if times got hard! These are the smart people making decisions about our company! It is going to be hard to do, but I'm voting NO! I wonder whoever is counting the votes are they going to be losing money too? This vote will pass no matter what the real count is!
This vote will pass because even though a lot of guys talk tough, here and at work, they'll vote yes in private......just like they do on contracts. At least there are some honest guys who'll come right out and say they're voting yes.
If they even bother to vote!
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Voting NO!
You said it, brother! I am tired of all the talk. Talk is cheap. Now they can walk the walk, or else.
You said it, brother! I am tired of all the talk. Talk is cheap. Now they can walk the walk, or else.
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The world has been going "crazy" for quite some time now, so your scare tactics won't work on people like me.
(Check out that poor Walmart Worker who was crushed to death by shoppers. That didn't used to happen years ago.)
If things get "bad", I am going to protect myself and my family no matter what it takes.
I am still voting "NO" on a raw deal, like many of us are.
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Play it "safe" and vote "YES".......NOT!!!!!!
Right on!!
This country is full of sissies and has been for years.
The Teamsters of the WWII generation would be telling us to vote "NO" to this deal, if they still could, IMHO.
Right on!!
This country is full of sissies and has been for years.
The Teamsters of the WWII generation would be telling us to vote "NO" to this deal, if they still could, IMHO.
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Roadway Express:1930 to 2005
Anyone else miss the fact that Roadway Express was started in 1930, DURING the Great Depression?
Anyone else miss the fact that Roadway Express was started in 1930, DURING the Great Depression?
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Don't expect a fast economic recovery, folks.
The economy isn't expected to even start to recover until 2010, if then.
Most predictions, by experts in economics, seem to lean towards a *very* grim 2009. Most don't expect any recovery until 2011-12.
That's a long time by my reckoning.
The economy isn't expected to even start to recover until 2010, if then.
Most predictions, by experts in economics, seem to lean towards a *very* grim 2009. Most don't expect any recovery until 2011-12.
That's a long time by my reckoning.
Very true.
Spoken like a true company MEaster. Grow a friggin sack already. YRCW has plenty of assets to sell to improve their cash flow. Just like they scared the MEasters into voting YES on this POS contract, they're gonna scare the nutless into voting this BS through.
Use your brain for once. How many freakin empty terminals are gonna be lying around after the merger? How many unused tow-motors? How many trailers are lying around unused? The chinese co. mentioned. YRC has tons of collateral to liquidate.
This is NOT a do or die situation. Wake up and smell the coffee. Just another scare tactic.
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I'm going to do you a favor
Well, I only have 20 years with the company (originally Roadway). I'm fortunate enough (old enough) to have my 80 and out.
I think those voting no on concessions, in light of the economic facts facing this company, are idiots. Selfish idiots to boot. Sorry if I hurt anyone feelings. The facts are the facts. The union has qualified auditors to review the YRC loan covenants. Credit markets are FROZEN people....lenders are not taking any more risk than they have to...Now is not the time to have to come up with new financing.....
Arguably, YRC has made management mistakes. However, competing with non-union carriers and their lower wage structure is a VERY difficult task. However, past mistakes are not the question. The question is, do you want to work beyond Christmas? Perhaps only 5-6 months. Perhaps longer. Maybe, just maybe the company will survive the current recession. Chances are slim, but better than a chain across the gate.
The bottom line is this is almost the last union freight company of any size (No offense ABF). There are not that many union jobs left. Any thing that might just help YRC get through the next recession might give it a chance to provide quality jobs for thousands of union employees and help thousands more make it to retirement. It also might enable one or more of the pension funds remain solvent. Or maybe just delay the day of reckoning for thousands of existing pensioners.
I'm going to be retiring soon anyway, so it's not my problem, I hope. However, I am going to do all you guys a favor and vote for anything that might help the company provide you with a chance to retire like me. I've got too many fellow employees that are close and need just a few more years. They deserve a shot.
Well, I only have 20 years with the company (originally Roadway). I'm fortunate enough (old enough) to have my 80 and out.
I think those voting no on concessions, in light of the economic facts facing this company, are idiots. Selfish idiots to boot. Sorry if I hurt anyone feelings.
The facts are the facts. The union has qualified auditors to review the YRC loan covenants. Credit markets are FROZEN people....lenders are not taking any more risk than they have to...Now is not the time to have to come up with new financing.....Arguably, YRC has made management mistakes. However, competing with non-union carriers and their lower wage structure is a VERY difficult task. However, past mistakes are not the question. The question is, do you want to work beyond Christmas? Perhaps only 5-6 months. Perhaps longer. Maybe, just maybe the company will survive the current recession. Chances are slim, but better than a chain across the gate.
The bottom line is this is almost the last union freight company of any size (No offense ABF). There are not that many union jobs left. Any thing that might just help YRC get through the next recession might give it a chance to provide quality jobs for thousands of union employees and help thousands more make it to retirement. It also might enable one or more of the pension funds remain solvent. Or maybe just delay the day of reckoning for thousands of existing pensioners.
I'm going to be retiring soon anyway, so it's not my problem, I hope. However, I am going to do all you guys a favor and vote for anything that might help the company provide you with a chance to retire like me. I've got too many fellow employees that are close and need just a few more years. They deserve a shot.
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Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. I will wait until I hear the proposal next Sunday and then make up my mind for sure.
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Well, I only have 20 years with the company (originally Roadway). I'm fortunate enough (old enough) to have my 80 and out.
I think those voting no on concessions, in light of the economic facts facing this company, are idiots. Selfish idiots to boot. Sorry if I hurt anyone feelings.
Arguably, YRC has made management mistakes. However, competing with non-union carriers and their lower wage structure is a VERY difficult task. However, past mistakes are not the question. The question is, do you want to work beyond Christmas? Perhaps only 5-6 months. Perhaps longer. Maybe, just maybe the company will survive the current recession. Chances are slim, but better than a chain across the gate.
The bottom line is this is almost the last union freight company of any size (No offense ABF). There are not that many union jobs left. Any thing that might just help YRC get through the next recession might give it a chance to provide quality jobs for thousands of union employees and help thousands more make it to retirement. It also might enable one or more of the pension funds remain solvent. Or maybe just delay the day of reckoning for thousands of existing pensioners.
I'm going to be retiring soon anyway, so it's not my problem, I hope. However, I am going to do all you guys a favor and vote for anything that might help the company provide you with a chance to retire like me. I've got too many fellow employees that are close and need just a few more years. They deserve a shot.
Great first post
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Spoken like a true company MEaster. Grow a friggin sack already. YRCW has plenty of assets to sell to improve their cash flow. Just like they scared the MEasters into voting YES on this POS contract, they're gonna scare the nutless into voting this BS through.
Use your brain for once. How many freakin empty terminals are gonna be lying around after the merger? How many unused tow-motors? How many trailers are lying around unused? The chinese co. mentioned. YRC has tons of collateral to liquidate.
This is NOT a do or die situation. Wake up and smell the coffee. Just another scare tactic.
No, I'm looking out for everyone here including those retired. You on the other hand are just looking out for yourself which makes you the MEaster. I voted No on this contract, but what does that have to do with the situation we are in. Sure they will have all those assets lying around, but explain to me who is going to buy them? Come on genious. It's like a kid with a bunch of old "valuable" baseball cards. Sure on paper he's got a lot of cash just sitting there. The problem is that they are only worth what someone is willing to pay. And I doubt there are too many companies that need extra terminals right now. You have a lot to learn unfortuantely for you time is running out. And you will be one of those guys standing around wondering what the hell just happened.
