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slabslob said:
Spoken like a true company MEaster. Grow a friggin sack already. YRCW has plenty of assets to sell to improve their cash flow. Just like they scared the MEasters into voting YES on this POS contract, they're gonna scare the nutless into voting this BS through.
Use your brain for once. How many freakin empty terminals are gonna be lying around after the merger? How many unused tow-motors? How many trailers are lying around unused? The chinese co. mentioned. YRC has tons of collateral to liquidate.
This is NOT a do or die situation. Wake up and smell the coffee. Just another scare tactic.:butt kiss:
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Wake up and smell the coffee? Consolidated Freightways had plenty of property to sell also, they sold it all after the company shut down.
 
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cessnakat said:
Wake up and smell the coffee? Consolidated Freightways had plenty of property to sell also, they sold it all after the company shut down.
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what he(slabslob)was trying to say is that CF didn't have double terminals and duplicate lanes....I agree no one wants to buy in this market though......in philadelphia(bensalem) they offered us a while back almost 20 million just because of where it is....they want casinos where we are now on the waterfront.....however they are not offering that much now.....:1036316054:
 
A No vote in my book means manage your company better than what your doing right now!!! Lots of room for much improvement to save money! Get out and visit some of your bread and butter,shake hands with them,go back to the basics of hauling freight and spend less time massaging Washington's balls,light a fire under some of your incompetent managers arss,know whats going on around your company!!!! Then come talk to me about consessions,I will be more than happy to help!!
 
texasflood said:
A No vote in my book means manage your company better than what your doing right now!!! Lots of room for much improvement to save money! Get out and visit some of your bread and butter,shake hands with them,go back to the basics of hauling freight and spend less time massaging Washington's balls,light a fire under some of your incompetent managers arss,know whats going on around your company!!!! Then come talk to me about consessions,I will be more than happy to help!!
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Thank you for seeing the light.........I wish others could......I mean why a 15% concession? Why not 20,25 or 30%?

But I do like vwaggs trade for shares. That would confuse Zollars if you asked for that..........

An employer's inability to compete is a failing of management. Some businesses are hampered by unhealthy management cultures that tolerate incompetent managers and generate poor management decisions. All things considered, management ineptitude is more likely to sink the business. Rank and file workers should not be responsible for years of bad management. Concessions on the part of rank and filers will not save a business that is its own worst enemy. At the end of the day, it is management's job to deal with the challenges of being in business.
 
regular342 said:
No, I'm looking out for everyone here including those retired. You on the other hand are just looking out for yourself which makes you the MEaster. I voted No on this contract, but what does that have to do with the situation we are in. Sure they will have all those assets lying around, but explain to me who is going to buy them? Come on genious. It's like a kid with a bunch of old "valuable" baseball cards. Sure on paper he's got a lot of cash just sitting there. The problem is that they are only worth what someone is willing to pay. And I doubt there are too many companies that need extra terminals right now. You have a lot to learn unfortuantely for you time is running out. And you will be one of those guys standing around wondering what the hell just happened.
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No standing around here pal. Realized long ago this ship has sailed. Too many greedy pigs sucking every ounce of OT from the company that they can. While brothers sit home praying for a couple days a week to make ends meet and hopefully get enough hours to cover H&W.
You, on the ohter hand, will just work MORE OT to cover the concession. While brothers sit home praying for work. Which makes YOU the MEaster. Pal.
 
Just a quick question, from an outsider, looking in.....

What if your vote doesn't matter? What if they have already decided what the outcome will be, regardless of what the "rank and file" votes? Now, I realize that the Teamsters would never rig a vote/election, but, and I am only wondering here, what if the.......oh, never mind, probably just "mental ************" on my part.......:hide:
 
Many of us wonder if our votes go to the Dead Letter Drop also.


av8tor said:
Just a quick question, from an outsider, looking in.....

What if your vote doesn't matter? What if they have already decided what the outcome will be, regardless of what the "rank and file" votes? Now, I realize that the Teamsters would never rig a vote/election, but, and I am only wondering here, what if the.......oh, never mind, probably just "mental ************" on my part.......:hide:
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prounion said:
NO

I will not dishonor what our forefathers have fought so hard and dear for. It may close the doors, but atleast I can walk away with my held high, I won't give in. I'm a TEAMSTER, and there is only one clear answer. Too many wanna be teamsters been rolling over and playing dead. I say to them, for once take a stand, and if they close atleast you can walk away a TEAMSTER who stood for what was right, fair, and just!
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What are you taking about ? Im all for fighting for better wages working conditions but pick up a newspaper . This is a vote for survival not trying to make a stand.Lets see what thier asking for and what kind off trouble we're in.Im a driver not a economic adviser but we have to be smart not go off half cocked.This economy got real bad real fast.YRC will not shut down they will file chapter 11 then thats when its going to be time to fight . We wont have a contract . I for one will be out there on the pickett line with you.
 
If this were a vote for survival, YRCW would not have been investing all that money a few months ago buying a Chinese freight company. They would have seen the same economic downturn the rest of the country did and adjusted for it. If our management is really so stupid they can't see the writing on the same wall that even stupid people are seeing, a pay cut will not solve this comapnies problem. It will simply fund their exit strategies, so they retire on our wages.
 
Common sense

Damn guys think for a minute. Big $ Zollars has already said that once the merger begins to smooth out he wants to work on employee satisfaction by purchasing more new equipment. If the plan was to merge these two companies, why in the heck would you buy or lease all of this new equipment and change up the color schemes only to have a complete change a short time later. Either this guy has a motive to bankrupt us or he is complete idiot. In rough times like these I would think that being very frugal would be the smart plan of attack, but then again I just drive the trucks.
 
Every year TDU publishes the salaries of the highest
paid Teamster officials in our $150,000 Club report.
That list is bigger than ever:
?? Last year, 98 Teamster officials made salaries of
$150,000 or more.
?? Thirty-seven officials making over $150,000
received a raise of $10,000 or more.
?? Fifty-seven Teamster officials received total compensation
of over $200,000—a 33 percent jump.

Zollars' actual compensation earned for 2007 was $3.09 million, down 40.4 percent from $5.19 million in 2006, according to a Tuesday filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
Zollars' compensation in 2007 included a base salary of $1.04 million, up 4 percent from $1 million in 2006; stock awards with a grant date fair value of $1.23 million; a cash bonus of $631,800; and other compensation of $191,889, the filing said.

Zollars' pension plan rose in value by $1.48 million.
When these people take a cut I will
Shut it down.
 
slabslob said:
You, on the ohter hand, will just work MORE OT to cover the concession. While brothers sit home praying for work. Which makes YOU the MEaster. Pal.
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LOL, I haven't seen OT in months. I was laid off in September and like many of you sit at home waiting for a call. How is that being a measter. Like I said earlier you have no clue. So get your facts straight before judging me.
 
We need to change IBT at the national level so that an administration cannot be there for more than 2 terms. This will make their interests ours again, since they will be returning to the ranks.
 
You guys say.
Oh $20 hr not bad as long as they leave bennies alone.
What about next time.
Oh $17 Hr not bad as long as they leave bennies alone.
Next Time
Oh their lowering Bennies but it's ok as long as were getting $17HR.
How much S*cking can you do?
WHEN THEY TAKE A CUT WE WILL CONSIDER IT.
And no I'm not in great shape financially wife dos not work, but I wont be taken advantage of.
So the bosses driving their Hummers and BMWs can laugh at us as the dummies we are.
SHUT IT DOWN
 
slabslob said:
No standing around here pal. Realized long ago this ship has sailed. Too many greedy pigs sucking every ounce of OT from the company that they can. While brothers sit home praying for a couple days a week to make ends meet and hopefully get enough hours to cover H&W.
You, on the ohter hand, will just work MORE OT to cover the concession. While brothers sit home praying for work. Which makes YOU the MEaster. Pal.
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I hate seeing this brother vs. brother fighting when we should be standing up for each other, but you are correct; there are way too many MEasters in the Teamsters Union. If this situation remains as it has, there won't be a Teamsters Union as it is. All this greed is killing us slowly.
 
only people i see voting yes 25 years plus the pension not going to be there for me because they will suck it dry for retireies
 
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